Re: Lua Libraries workshop scheduled for Feb 19

[jim@...]

|  1. there should be one SMALL standard CORE library,
| which is just enough for most of the users need, and
| which is in fully ANSI C ( i mean portable ). These
| include dealing with file system directories ( as

Why must we force Lua into the genre of a console 
based scripting language? Or a language tied 
to a conventional filesystem? I really love the fact that Lua
is independent of this method of use. I _really_
love it. The Lua language is the standard, not the 
extension libs. Thier use should be app specific
so people don't 'expect' something other than the 
language's semantics. I really don't like the 'standard
fileio interface'. I wrote a custom version for Yindo 
specific to our product's needs. People might ask, 
"where's 'execute'? where's 'setlocale'" . huh? 
these are not functions of the Lua language.

| These
| include dealing with file system directories ( as
| getting system attributes ) as in Java. 

Some projects don't treat the fileio as a standard 
filesystem... some projects don't have a filesystem. Personally 
I'd prefer the Lua aux fileio lib stay the way it is, 'just
another (optional) interface lib'. Nothing 'standard'
about it.

| *2. MOST IMPORTANT, we should also decide for an
| EXTENDED library set. This we can name as LXL ( Lua

Choosing one extension lib over another - deciding on a 
standard set of libraries. bad idea imho. Create a 
web page listing them all and let people choose what 
they want to compile into Lua based on their use.

2C

Regards,
Jim


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashish Ranjan" <ashishwave@yahoo.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <lua-l@tecgraf.puc-rio.br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Lua Libraries workshop scheduled for Feb 19


| Hello,
|   though i will not be able to go there just for
| attending the meeting from india, i will like to say
| that following should be taken note in the meeting:
| 
|  1. there should be one SMALL standard CORE library,
| which is just enough for most of the users need, and
| which is in fully ANSI C ( i mean portable ). These
| include dealing with file system directories ( as
| getting system attributes ) as in java. This core
| library along with the interpreter should be
| considered with the core standard language.it must be
| named as LFL ( Lua Foundation Library ) or LCL ( Lua
| core Library ).
| 
| *2. MOST IMPORTANT, we should also decide for an
| EXTENDED library set. This we can name as LXL ( Lua
| Extended Library ) on the pattern of MFC of Visual
| C++. Actually u can think of it as analogous to javax
| library.
|  It will have the classes or functions libraries which
| are needed for lua as some more powerful scripting
| tool. for example u can put socket functions library
| in this LXL. so if one wants to script some networking
| code in lua, then he will have to install LXL, and
| wherever one wants to run that person's scripts, he
| can just install standard LXL. and say, the users who
| want to develop their own socket functions will try to
| maintain atleast calling parameter and function names
| matching. (i am not saying that socket functions are
| needed by everyone, i am just giving them for examples
| .the actual functions to be put inthere can be decided
| by majority's consent.)so there will be some
| homogeneity in function names across all the thousand
| custom lua ( extended ) interpreter's maintained by
| everyone for himself. don't get me wrong, that i am
| against everyone's own libraries, infact that is what
| which has made lua achieve so much appreciation. what
| i want to say that, just collect all the Usually
| common functions and classes etc. across all thousands
| of these libraries and put them in a standard extended
| library, if they can not be put in standard core
| library  because of the purpose of keeping lua
| standard core library small.
| 
| 
| bye :-)
| Ashish
| Postscript: waiting for the comment from esp. from the
| lua language designers, that what's ur stand about
| this standard EXTENDED lua library, which will be
| apart from the standard CORE lua library.
| 
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