Re: Positioning a new lua distribution

["Szabolcs Szasz" <sz@...>]

Some potential killers:

. E.g. what's the status of mod_lua for example? Now, 
  some infrastructure built around that could _really_
  raise some general attention if done well.   (http://www.xtgsystems.com/linux/lua/mod_lua.php.)

. Design a CGI shell. Position it (technically) where 
  suEXEC is for Apache, add some "shellish" features
  and Lua as its scripting language. Much better than
  running a fat bash, and much lighter than PHP. I'd
  die for such a beast!

. And, Lua could also be the "VBScript" of sysadmins: 
  keeping it intuitive to interact with from a host 
  process would make it an unbeatable "implant" to 
  handle the dirty work of system maintenance chores.
  (Dont forget to add '#' comments ASAP - every other
  sysadmin scripting languages have it already.)


<some_more_mumbling>
From: "Bilyk, Alex" <ABilyk@maxis.com>
> LuaCheia strikes me too as something that has been done over and over 
> to the degree of being overdone... over and over. "Let's redo X in 

Yes, Lua cannot be a winner as just a nice language.
We'we seen enough nice languages not winning the game.

E.g. I found Lua looking for a general purpose, simple, 
efficient, small, embedded interpreter (for writing a 
programmable mail-to-web gateway). Now I will also give 
it a try for replacing PHP in some Apache suEXEC CGI 
situations for efficiency reasons.)

Had I looked for basically anything else, I'd have 
never considered Lua, as there are millions of mature 
and familiar alternatives already. A standalone tool?!
Lua has just as much advantage over the others than
they have over Lua!

I can't get what's wrong with positioning Lua as what 
it has already been best positioned at: a "general purpose, 
simple, efficient, small, embedded interpreter".

If Lua trades any of these great properties in exchange 
for "gaining ground" in other areas, that will necessarily
move focus and effort from its essence (I already got
confused seeing that "LuaCheia Mailing List Summary" 
subject earlier, as when I subscribed, it was just a 
Lua list -- now is LuaCheia aimed to take over Lua or
what does that mean?) Such a move will likely ruin 
this cool little "servo motor" feeling of Lua, what 
we probably all love and is so uniquely brilliant.
</some_more_mumbling>


Cheers,
Sab