Re: Programming beginners' documentation

["steve donovan" <steve.j.donovan@...>]

And to complete the SciTE part of the thread (at least),
here is a Windows installer for SciTE:

http://luaforge.net/frs/download.php/3358/scite.msi

Shortcut on desktop, and puts an 'Open with SciTE'
on the Explorer context menu.

The relevance here is that this includes the scite-debug
extensions, so it can be used to debug Lua.

steve d.


On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:27 PM, steve donovan
<steve.j.donovan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, here is my first stab at an installer:
>
>  http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/sdonovan/lua/lua-msi.zip
>
>  (It is a zipped .msi, no 'tarballs' here ;))
>
>  It puts LuaBinaries together with the manual, plus a shortcut to PiL.
>  As suggested by Philippe, it registers .lua as a filetype associated
>  with lua5.1.exe.  PATH and PATHEXT are modified, so this works:
>
>  C:\stuff>type test.lua
>  print ("hello, number of args is",#arg)
>
>  C:\stuff>test 1 2 3
>  hello, number of args is  3
>
>  We still need a Friendly Executive Summary kind of tutorial introduction,
>  and some illustrative scripts.
>
>  steve d.
>
>  PS. Three shortcuts on the desktop! Man, that feels a bit much. But
>  this is what people say they need.
>
>
>
>  On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Philippe Lhoste <PhiLho@gmx.net> wrote:
>  > On 10/05/2008 21:38, KHMan wrote:
>  >
>  > > Unfortunately, I think a lower barrier may be needed. [...]  Even the
>  > installer
>  > >
>  > > might have certain informational pages to ease the user into the
>  > > first steps. Also, sample scripts, etc. Stuff like that.
>  > >
>  > > Of course, all of this needs resources and effort to support and
>  > > produce. But if it is to be targeted to beginners, we need to
>  > > mentally put ourselves in the position of a real beginner and see
>  > > what we can do to lower the barriers. Sort of a product usability
>  > > study.
>  > >
>  >
>  >  It is funny that a somehow unfriendly message (coming out of frustration
>  > and lack of knowledge/proper reading) generated a (new) reflection
>  > (thinking) on how to make Lua more friendly for beginners (at least on
>  > Windows, where the need is probably the most pressing).
>  >
>  >  I hope something useful will come out of this.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  --
>  >  Philippe Lhoste
>  >  --  (near) Paris -- France
>  >  --  http://Phi.Lho.free.fr
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