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- Subject: Re: Lua Ecosystem
- From: Dirk Laurie <dirk.laurie@...>
- Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 07:01:42 +0200
2013/11/26 Sean Conner <sean@conman.org>:
> A problem with LuaRocks is that the name used to install a module isn't
> the actual name of the module you use in Lua---that still doesn't solve the
> issue of overlapping modules. For instance:
>
> [spc]lucy:~>luarocks install luuid
> ...
> [spc]lucy:~>lua
> Lua 5.1.5 Copyright (C) 1994-2012 Lua.org, PUC-Rio
>> uuid = require "uuid"
>> show = require "org.conman.table".show
>> show(uuid)
> version "uuid library for Lua 5.1 / Nov 2010"
> new function: 0x905cab0
> time function: 0x90541d8
> isvalid function: 0x905ca78
>
> [spc]lucy:~>luarocks install uuid
> ...
> [spc]lucy:~>lua
> Lua 5.1.5 Copyright (C) 1994-2012 Lua.org, PUC-Rio
>> uuid = require "uuid"
>> show = require "org.conman.table".show
>> show(uuid)
> randomseed function: 0xa0136f8
> seed function: 0xa0136d8
> new function: 0xa013788
>
> No warning that module "uuid" was being overwritten. Now, what if I
> installed (via LuaRocks) LuaFoo that uses luuid (which is installed, because
> of dependency tracking), and LuaBar that uses uuid (which is also installed,
> because of dependency tracking)?
Not knowing all those modules, I'm tempted to think that
the con man at that org is performing a three-card trick :-)
More seriously, four questions about LuaRocks:
1. Is there any moderation whatsoever, or can any idiot,
con man or whoever upload something and suddenly
it's got rock status?
2. Once I have uploaded a rock, is there any way that
someone who is not me can upload something claiming
to be a newer version of it?
3. Is there any mechanism in place where users can give
just +1 and -1 feedback?
4. Would it be utterly and completely impractical to impose
certain minimal standardizations, e.g.
- require "module" always returns something callable
- require "module" "_SIGNATURE" returns a unique
string that is automatically allocated when that version
of the rock is uploaded.