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- Subject: Re: [ANN] Lua 5.3.1 (rc1) now available
- From: Coda Highland <chighland@...>
- Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 13:28:06 -0700
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Nagaev Boris <bnagaev@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Coda Highland <chighland@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Nagaev Boris <bnagaev@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Coda Highland <chighland@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Roberto Ierusalimschy
>>>> <roberto@inf.puc-rio.br> wrote:
>>>>>> There seems to have been a general search-and-replace of "numeric"
>>>>>> by "numerical" except in "alphanumeric" and os.setlocale.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally I preferred it as it was. The two words are nowadays completely
>>>>>> synonymous.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else has strong preferences about that?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Roberto
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *raises hand* I think "numeric" is definitely the preferred form here.
>>>> While the two words may be near-synonymous by a dictionary definition,
>>>> the common usage is different.
>>>>
>>>> The term "numeric" is most frequently used to describe things that
>>>> CONSIST of numbers, while the term "numerical" is most frequently used
>>>> to describe things that USE numbers. For example, a "numeric value" is
>>>> the result of an arithmetic expression, and a "numeric field" can
>>>> contain a number, but a "numerical method" employs a series of
>>>> computed number values to approximate a result that is difficult to
>>>> evaluate directly and "numerical reasoning" describes one's ability to
>>>> derive meaning from a set of numbers.
>>>>
>>>> /s/ Adam
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for the explanation!
>>>
>>> There are same 2 words in Russian:
>>> 1) числовой - numeric
>>> состоит из чисел - consists of numbers
>>> Example: числовая переменная - numeric variable
>>> 2) численный - numerical
>>> работает с числами - uses numbers
>>> Example: численные методы - numerical methods
>>>
>>> What about word "numeral"?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Boris Nagaev
>>>
>>
>> What ABOUT "numeral"? It means a symbol representing a digit or number
>> as a noun, and it means pertaining to denoting a number as an
>> adjective. In both cases it's about how a number is written, rather
>> than how it's handled.
>>
>> /s/ Adam
>>
>
> Thank you! In Russian equivalent noun is "число". Maybe the closest
> Russian adjective is "цифровой" (literally "digital").
>
>
> --
>
>
> Best regards,
> Boris Nagaev
>
"Digit" is probably closer than "digital" at least for the noun sense.
But technically the word "one" is a numeral even though it's not a
digit -- it's a written representation of a number.
/s/ Adam