Re: How can I write an android web application using orbit?

["Joh Journeyer J." <oosaprogrammer@...>]

Hi,

I've found MEAN(MEAN is a fullstack framework. ExpressJS on the
backend + MongoDB and AngularJS for templating + Frontend stuff) good
for me.

It doesn't belong our lua world though..
Maybe now javascript has more fans and bigger community than lua..

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2015-12-04 13:56 GMT+09:00 Joh Journeyer J. <oosaprogrammer@gmail.com>:
> Hi Matt,
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> Thank you for the kind answer.
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> I found many interesting frameworks.. one of those is phonegap.
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> I am doing just my personnel project. So let me just start with orbit on linux.
> And later some time if needed I think I can find ways to apply this
> into android and possibly ios.
>
> Thank you.. The urls you pointed out, I guess I will look up later sometime..
>
> Thank you.
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> 2015-12-03 22:35 GMT+09:00  <matthew@bluedino.net>:
>> At LogicNets, we have a fairly large Lua application which we have ported to
>> run on both iOS and Android in a fashion similar to what you have described.
>>
>> 1. For details on getting Lua to run on iOS, take a look at my iLua project
>> (https://github.com/profburke/ilua). It's a little bit of a work in
>> progress, but it should get you pointed in the right direction.
>>
>> 2. For Android, doing it from scratch isn't too bad, but you'll almost
>> certainly instead want to use something like LuaJava
>> (https://github.com/jasonsantos/luajava), AndroLua
>> (https://github.com/mkottman/AndroLua), or LuaJ
>> (http://www.luaj.org/luaj.html). For our application, we used LuaJava
>> (although we had to do some customization---for reasons not worth discussing
>> here, we are still using Lua 4). Note that we did the Android port almost a
>> year ago when Eclipse was still more or less the preferred IDE for doing
>> Android work.
>>
>> These days you should consider Android Studio instead. However, although in
>> theory it supports the native development kit (NDK---the ability to compile
>> C code, which you will need), my initial (limited) attempt at getting it to
>> work was unsuccessful.
>>
>> I'll just throw out that there are a few alternatives for doing
>> cross-platform Lua. For example, Corona (https://coronalabs.com/) which you
>> might also want to look at.
>>
>> 3. An important note about application architecture: for both platforms
>> (Android and iOS), we have a native app that works as follows:
>>
>> 1. Does some initial setup and configuration
>> 2. Starts a background thread has a Lua VM. This VM runs a simple web server
>> we've written in Lua.
>> 3. On the main thread presents a webview component (WKWebView on iOS,
>> android.webkit.WebView on Android). This webview is told to load a URL from
>> localhost.
>>
>> Android
>> -------
>>
>> On Android it is possible to do something like what you suggest: run your
>> application in the background and have the user use a browser to interact
>> with it.
>> When your app launches it could create and run a service
>> (android.app.Service) and not present any sort of UI.
>>
>> I don't think you want to go that route. I think it's too awkward and
>> confusing for the user. If you instead use an approach like we took, you
>> will present the user a more unified experience which she has better control
>> of.
>>
>> iOS
>> ---
>>
>> On iOS you can't take the approach you described. You have to do something
>> like we did because you can't have long-running background apps. Yes, I know
>> all about foreground and background apps on iOS. But none of the mechanisms
>> you can use for doing background processing will allow you to run a web
>> server that doesn't get terminated pretty quickly. Note that running an app
>> in the background is not the same as having a background thread running in
>> your foreground app (I'm tired and not explaining this well).
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, let me know if you have more questions.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthew M. Burke
>> matthew@bluedino.net
>> 703-955-6071
>>
>>