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- Subject: Re: Safe user-facing pattern matching.
- From: Coda Highland <chighland@...>
- Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:06:23 -0700
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Martin <eden_martin_fuhrspam@gmx.de> wrote:
>> So of course there's an ad-hoc linear time algorithm to match this, but
>> the point is: can we come up with a matching algorithm that writes that
>> ad-hoc algorithm automatically, i.e. can we solve the general case?
>
> I think the more common questions besides this are
>
> * does current regexps language is powerful enough to match all
> possible strings that can be matched in linear time?
> (probably not)
> * does such language exists?
> * could this language be constructed?
>
> This recalls me Goedel's statement that on any complex enough
> axioms basis may be assertions whose trueness or falseness
> cannot be proved anyhow.
>
> -- Martin
No, yes, and yes, in that order, but you missed a constraint. The
problem is that to encompass ALL possible O(n)-parseable grammars you
have to open up the full scope of Turing completeness, which then
violates our original intent of safely running untrusted patterns
because you can't prove that a given pattern will behave.
On the other hand, the LR grammars provide a comfortably large subset
of interesting languages that can be matched in O(n) time.
/s/ Adam
- References:
- Re: Safe user-facing pattern matching., Gé Weijers
- Re: Safe user-facing pattern matching., Martin
- Re: Safe user-facing pattern matching., Gé Weijers
- Re: Safe user-facing pattern matching., Martin
- Re: Safe user-facing pattern matching., Coda Highland
- Re: Safe user-facing pattern matching., Martin
- Re: Safe user-facing pattern matching., Coda Highland
- Re: Safe user-facing pattern matching., Martin
- Re: Safe user-facing pattern matching., Gé Weijers
- Re: Safe user-facing pattern matching., Martin