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On Jan 15, 2013, at 6:50 PM, William Ahern <william@25thandClement.com> wrote:

> I'm going to suggest that it really shouldn't be up for discussion ;) Of
> course there are exceptions where reference counting won't work. But
> exceptions always have very specific contexts, and it's those contexts which
> will invariably constrain and define the solution.

Sure, but having a common solution/model for how to handle some other memory management models than just ref counting isn't a bad thing to discuss.  In particular how to handle a model of "C/C++ is still the sole owner and can delete/free anytime", in a graceful way.

-hadriel